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		<title>Johnno: New page: In 1950-59, 4037 publications in NZ (publication = pamphlet of 5+ pages, or a novel). Where are they, how do we get hold of them, and can they be freed?  * [http://natlib.govt.nz/collectio...</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;New page: In 1950-59, 4037 publications in NZ (publication = pamphlet of 5+ pages, or a novel). Where are they, how do we get hold of them, and can they be freed?  * [http://natlib.govt.nz/collectio...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;In 1950-59, 4037 publications in NZ (publication = pamphlet of 5+ pages, or a novel). Where are they, how do we get hold of them, and can they be freed?&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://natlib.govt.nz/collections/a-z/publications-new-zealand Publications NZ] - has all of the things, in MARC. Federated to Worldcat. US Copyright law restricts stuff since 1870.&lt;br /&gt;
* Some stuff will need consultation with Iwi&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.kiwialex.com/1/post/2013/03/about-the-project.html Reclaiming New Zealand&amp;#039;s Digitised Heritage project] - Kiwi Alex&lt;br /&gt;
* Today&amp;#039;s bibliographies from libraries may not match online or physical storage. Stuff can be in stack, lost, moved, destroyed, storage, etc. It may be possible to use cross-catalogue data or cross-media data to track books down (e.g. mentions in Papers Past)&lt;br /&gt;
* Maybe leave out unpublished data&lt;br /&gt;
* How do we get institutions to lend the books to digitise? NL won&amp;#039;t lend out valuable material without conservator reporting.&lt;br /&gt;
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What format, and how do we make it text-searchable?&lt;br /&gt;
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* Agree on something like METS-ALTO and DC, and federate with OAI-PMH and/or use Digital NZ.&lt;br /&gt;
* NL scanned 300dpi colour TIFF images per page, into PDF with page image + OCR.&lt;br /&gt;
* e-books in EPUB, which is (more or less) zipped HTML. Kindle uses MobiPocket, another format based on Open eBook.&lt;br /&gt;
* ODPS is a syndication format - like RSS but for e-books.&lt;br /&gt;
* http://stats.govt.nz/ ← fully searchable open access (XML) yearbook data.&lt;br /&gt;
* TEI XML can be huge and possibly redundant for many use cases - http://www.tei-c.org/&lt;br /&gt;
* Gutenberg Project offer many formats - but some are auto-generated from a master&lt;br /&gt;
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How do we make it available online?&lt;br /&gt;
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* Some data will be very specific and of little commercial or even research value.&lt;br /&gt;
* Others will have high commercial value&lt;br /&gt;
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Some have been digitised already.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Digitisation efforts are already under way at National Library.&lt;br /&gt;
* Some stuff is in Google Books/Hathi Trust, but sourced from the US (little comms with Nat Lib NZ), can be tricky to get stuff from them&lt;br /&gt;
* Some is public domain, some copyrighted&lt;br /&gt;
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Do we want to cover periodicals?&lt;br /&gt;
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* Quite probably yes!&lt;br /&gt;
* RILM are going about digitising. &lt;br /&gt;
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Who will host it, who will &amp;quot;own&amp;quot; it and maintain it over time?&lt;br /&gt;
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* National Library seems the most sensible fit&lt;br /&gt;
* Public/Private collaboration; should we delete data that is objected to by one or two stakeholders?&lt;br /&gt;
** Reliance on corporate law and upholding contracts&lt;br /&gt;
** Could the private organisations be not-for-profit, or similarly chartered?&lt;br /&gt;
** Retain public ownership&lt;br /&gt;
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== Audience ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Where is the data for matching your message, with the right audience, and the platform they tend to use? For example for 16 year-olds, we need Facebook, but not so much for retirees?! &lt;br /&gt;
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* Media studies - in primary and secondary education, there are &amp;quot;bring your own device&amp;quot; initiatives which may have good data.&lt;br /&gt;
* Sometimes lack of demand is because people don&amp;#039;t know it&amp;#039;s available and/or don&amp;#039;t know they&amp;#039;re looking for it&lt;br /&gt;
* Local information could be sliced-and-diced by locality, person, and so on (semantic metadata) and be highly relevant to the punters.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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